Does Matter Really Matter?

[George Le Poi]

Max Planck said: “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear-headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.”

So the Intent of the Mind is the true creative force.
The stronger, purer and clearer it is the more quickly it manifests.
There's no stipulation of positive or negative, so whatever we do,
or don't do creates.
Not doing different maintains the status quo, whilst doing even
the same old, same old but with considered and focussed
different intent will produce a different manifestation. eg.
I will drive to work or
I will drive to work, enjoying and appreciating the freedom
I have to do this and extend the kindness and courtesy
I would welcome if it was extended to me.
Same old, but different.

[George Le Poi]

Matter matters when we match vibration, like on the football field, where matter mastery is the name of the game.
We have our senses and synapses to report how our physical carriage is holding up.
We need a carriage (body) for our consciousness because if we were mind consciousness (at the moment)
we'd lack the control to meet and relate to one another.
Try watching your thoughts and where they go for 10/15
minutes and you'll see what I mean.
So at the moment we are in a physical transport device to experience this vibration, but if you believe thats reality then bingo... your stuck with it. Wear out one, make another, come back, do it again, and again.
Actually, that's not my plan.
Hasn't been since I read Johnathon Livingston Seagull.
I have it as an audio book and listen to it in the car, because I need to remind myself constantly,"it's a dream
I'm waking up", and I have whole lot of friends round me who remind me when I forget.
And now I have Ning...Yaaaaay!
LOL

[apachestone]

hi ya George
i think so there for i am my enviroment ? matter wise i think i see what your getting at.
i projecting my positve thought out from me i am attracting positive things towards me in the form of matter?
its stacking my own deck kinda deal ?

mind over matter is a matter to be over.
Rick

[George Le Poi]

So if we vibrate in a dense way, frown at the world so to speak,
we match our vibrations to frown frequency, and move into
bah,humbug mode.
Your deck, stack it anyway you like...How good is that!
George

[don]

Hi, George -- I'm new here but old to this stuff. Have you read "The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment" by Thaddeus Golas? He talks about how our vibratory frequencies determine our reality.

[George Le Poi]

Sorry Don,
Haven't struck Thaddeus Golas book, will keep an eye out for it. I kind of live in a world where I make daily observations of my own vibrational frequencies and then try to notice what sort of reality I've created from it.
There's generally a delay from my initial reaction or response to the result that will manifest.
I belong to a group that meets weekly and has done for a bit over 25 years now.
Vibrational frequencies, by that name and a lots of others have been a regular topic of our discussions, and how attention to the present, with best intent and best practice, creates a dynamic platform or base to approach life from. Bills comment below about limiting beliefs is pretty spot on.
Bless us All
George

[don]

In my view, belief itself is limiting. As soon as one defines a set of beliefs, they are also defining what they don't believe. Thus they limit themselves. If we simply experience what is and not add anything to it, nor take away anything from it, eventually all becomes clear.

[George Le Poi]

Belief. like imagination, is a tool of the mind, part of our mental muscle infrastructure. Our belief, if developed through reaction or fear, can certainly limit if used in a limiting way. I so agree with what you say about adopting a non reactive, experiential standpoint, adding nothing or taking nothing away. The quieter the mind, the more receptive it becomes and the more potent also.
Bless us All.
George.

[Bill Schuh]

So the intent of the mind collapses the wave into a particular probability. Is our intent also tied up with our beliefs? The more we address limiting beliefs, the more the matter of limits is reduced. (excuse the pun!)
Peace,
Bill

[George Le Poi]

I think the force of our Intent probably corresponds to the depth of our belief, without depth to our belief the intent lacks force, for example..."This year I'm going to lodge my tax return on July 1..." Oh yeah, says our subconscious, where have I heard that before?
Purity in action, ie being present in the now, seems to add power to the intent, like when we say we're going to do something straight away, and then do it.
The net has shown me my weakness in this area, like when I get to a page and go Wow this is fantastic! and whats that...? and then hours later, how did I get here?, where was I going? I get sucked into the adventure and loose direction. But the catch is I don't effect the thing I started out after, so I set up an entirely different line of investigation to the one I originally had.
Has this ever happened to you?
George

[Steven Burnand]

Hi George, thanks for a well thought in/out question. Mind is both the matter of all minds and the mind of all matter, so yes; matter does matter as it is an intrinsic part of both states? What is outside is both inside and outside at the same time! The word matterness springs to mind? In scientific terms matter would be in a form of state, however from our inside-out world perspective it would be in an in-formed state of mind! Wow! The statement ‘Well in-formed’ makes a lot of sense? There is a Taoist saying that you go in to out and out to go in, so, which direction you choose is far more critical than the state that matter is in? The enigmatic nature of intention is down to the process being in four in-formed states and four out-formed states. There ordination from our perceived outside world to our perceived inside world would be absorption, reciprocation, real to imaginary and finally a condensate. Or in another form… formulate, operate, interpretation and condensate. The ability to ask and structure open questions is critical when moving through all of the stages in this process, however the effective use of when, what and where, are little discussed, in our formal education, in which we are told how the process works and given the reason why from another persons reasoning and perspective. I see the ability to understand this internal/external navigation process as critical, to both understanding the true nature of our self’s being as well as being our self. Another interesting point is that Taoism is called the way of ways although this could be substituted for the directions of directions? Stephen Hawkin’s said in His book ‘A Brief History of Time’ that if you take away the imaginary component of time you are left with a direction in space. Both of our universes are on the move and without following some relatively constant directions the matter both inside and outside would be in a state of chaos? When you say stronger purer and cleaner form, could directional qualities, also come into the formulation as well as those of magnitude? Do we all have a sense of direction? Just some ideas that I thought I would throw out to the greater self for feed back and answers. Om Shanti

[George Le Poi]

Wow, this is getting really interesting, can I explain where I'm coming from?

I try to recognize the overall realms of being so as I can keep track of where things belong,
I do it like this...

The Realm of Matter, dense and unaware, awaiting consciousness to raise it towards the Light.The primordial soup, so to speak. Inert until touched by consciousness, containing unlimited potential.

The Realm of Mind, where matter has attained form and begins to become self aware, it has a conscious awareness, and limited command of the four basic elemental forces that in various proportions go to assembling the physical world we live in. This platform is subject to the force of conscious will or intent and it is this will or intent that acts as a feeder of consciousness to the realm of matter. It assembles the matter and gives it form into which the consciousness of self is born. The realm of mind is governed by the rate of vibration it is created at, and in this way attraction to circumstances exactly matches the action of mind at any given place or time. All matter is subject to this and herein lay the infinite possibilities we find ourselves surrounded with. You and I would recognize this as reality, even though each one of us has their own reality where we give permission for the conditions of our existence to manifest. My personal clue to identify things of Mind is whether or not they are dual in nature, (positive and negative) and whether or not they are Immutable.

The Realm of Soul is Immutable. My indicators for things of Soul is the unity of things we find there. When we consciously draw the force of Soul, or unite with it, limitations of physical condition disappear. The ability of Great Souls to raise us above our limited perspective, and heal, teach, and imbue the realm of mind with consciousness reflects the presence of a Mind connected with Soul.

The Realm of Spirit is a state of unity with all vibrations, I'd like to share a quote here, my words can't do justice.
..."The Glory, the radiant and all-encompassing beauty, the resplendence of the Spirit is beyond the grandest imaginings of humanity. When a person is fortunate to experience the tiniest wisp of this, he knows Joy and Bliss beyond his present comprehension. It instantly and dramatically changes the course of his life no matter how ordinary or extraordinary, dissatisfied or content he is. Contact with Spirit raises his consciousness to magnificent and exalted heights and after this glorious and illuminating experience, he can never be the same again."
John & Lyn St.Clair-Thomas. www mindsoulspirit.com.au

We are at all times accompanied by beings of a finer vibration, awaiting our acknowledgment and seeking to help further the acts of creation we wish to perform.

Thanks for hitting the ball back
George

[Jane Gallagher]

Thank you for a very interesting half hour of intriguing insights and thought provoking ideas. Would love to add a few comments of my own, but thoughts are still swirling about my brain…or should I say mind? ….since I’m not sure the two are the same. ;)
Would you by chance be familiar with Paul Brunton? His book, "The Wisdom of the Overself " came to mind as I was reading your comments.
http://www.paulbrunton.org/pb.php
Thanks again, Jane