Divine Force of the Universe

[Matt]

Over the centuries, the human race has created many words to explain the Divine Force of the universe. Many use the word "God". Still others use words like Universal Mind, Tao, Yin, Logos and many others. Almost every religion and spiritual group uses some word to call out the Divine Force. On a more scientific level, we also have a word that describes this Divine Force… the Field (or Zero Point Field).

Regardless of religious or spiritual preferences, most people are seeking some form of higher wisdom, understanding, consciousness, intelligence and ultimately enlightenment. Words like "God" are used to call out the Divine Force or "Divine Vibration" that is mentioned in almost all religions. This "vibration" is within everything and sustains the entire universe. No matter what word sounds most appealing to you, the meaning is virtually the same across belief systems and fits into the more scientific term… the Field.

The Field, much like the "Divine Vibration", is a vast energy sea that connects everything in the universe including our minds. As explained in the book "The Field" by Lynne McTaggart, the Field is a unifying concept of the universe, one that reconciles mind with matter, classic Newtonian science with quantum physics and science with religion.

The Zero Point Field is described as microscopic vibrations in outer space as well as within and between physical objects on Earth and throughout the universe. This "cobweb of energy exchange" links everything in the universe including our minds.

Physicists have been aware of the Field for years. However, constrained by orthodoxy, they have ignored its effects which Lynne McTaggart likens to "subtracting out God" from their equations.

The concept or question that I pose to all of you is…

What if "God" (the Divine Force / Vibration that is innately felt by almost all of us on some level) is the sum of all universal consciousness connected through the Field?

I welcome and look forward to all concepts, theories and comments regarding this question.

[Wendred]

I believe that we are all part of universal consiousness and is felt by all as we are all sparks of the divine split off to experience all through our human senses , body mind spirit.Also all life,plant, animal ect down to the infitismal, are part of the vibrational feild. It much better explained elsewhere but I gave it a shot.

[patty]

Aloha

There is a Buddhist Sutra tha explains the universe is a net of diamonds and when one diamond lights up the whole net lights up.

I like how Cleve Backster shares about primary perception. He shares in his experiments with plants we experience bio-communication. He conducts lie detector classes still at the age of 83. He had hooked up a plant to see if he could register a response. He was aproxmently 3 feet to 6 feet away from the plant and when he had the thought of burning the plant as soon as he had the thought of the plant registered. Mellon-Tomas Benedict shares in his NDE Cleve Backster was looked on like a Saint. Lynne McTaggart shares about Cleve Beckster in both of her books. http://www.primaryperception.com/bio/

In the Tunderbolts of Gods, David Talbot and Wallace Thronhill share how the electrical nature of the universe and the past cataclysms formed our relationships with Gods. http://www.kronia.com/kronia.html

love patty

[Starlark]

Matt, That is what I am thinking also that all is consciousness and consciousness is creating or creator meaning all of us are gods and goddesses by virtue of the Field of connection through consciousness. Hope that is clear?? We can not do it alone and we are so fortunate to have the connection of the field of this consciousness that all have made their contributions to and have taken needed nourishment from. Now comes the age of understanding how to use and benefit the Universe with our knowlege of using our directed intentions to create and heal the planet and all.

[Cathy McCullum]

Hi Matt

I'm a bit of a beginner with The Field, I just finished Bruce Lipton's book and some of Jeremy Narby's.

But still:
The Field is the first explanation for "it" that suits my wandering mind ;-). I believe that every religion is an cultural-based expression of The Field, whatever they call it and whatever symbols they use. I don't feel comfortable with personified religious symbols. I also feel very uncomfortable with dogmatism or radical, single minded believes that lead to intolerance and religious wars.

For me The Field excludes dogmatism (because there's nothing that could lead to any interpretation) and is a source of tolerance and peace, allowing an individual spiritual life and religion.

The Field is as basic as it gets, and in not being materialized and not being bound to a religion, it is the source of everything, it is just what we all are: part of everything. I as a thoroughly sceptical and rational mind have found for me the answers to all my questions and to all my mistrust.

Cathy

[Susan Clift]

Hi, Matt;
"A Course in Miracles" was the connection for me. It explains how "God" can never be taken out of the equation. Where did the "field" , "Divine Vibration" come from? How did it form? All physical reality is an illusion and thought creates everything physical. The physical world came about because we (I) thought that (I) we are seperated from God. Does fear (the ego) and all of it's handmaidens exist anywhere other than in a physical world?

I've been a student of ACIM since 1986 and believe everything that quantum physics is now proving. Love is what we are and we are either giving love or asking for love. The AMIC Test, Workbook and Teacher's Manual ask that "you question everything you believe". When we as conscious beings realize that "when two or more are gathered in my name", isn't just words, but the pathway to "Heaven", mankind, will "try once again" and become aware that we need only realize that we are created in His image, Love. We are creators. We do it consciously or unconsciously. We (I) have "been mistaken" when I thought I was seperate from God. All we need do is ask our Father's forgiveness for believing in the illusion fear, which created this physical world and offer forgiveness to our brothers and sisters for believing I (we) are serperate from them or they from me (us).

Dr. Kenneth Wapnick, Ph.D., founder of the Foundation for ACIM, has written numerous books, "A Vast Illusion", "The Journey Home". I'd like to share this paragraph with you (page 365, in "The Journey Home").
"And when the memory of God has come to you in the holy pace of forgiveness you will remember nothing else, and memory will be as useless as learning, for your only purpose will be creating. Yet this you cannot know until every perception has been cleansed and purified, and finally removed forever. Forgiveness removes only the untrue, lifting the shadows from the world and carrying it, safe and sure within it gentleness, to the bright world of new and clean perception. There is your purpose now. And it is there that peace awaits you.".

This world is not of God. He knows not fear. Jesus taught us that we can be "in this world" without being "of this world". This world, as we know it today, is Fear's perception of itself. The question still is, "To be or not to be"?
Now, this moment, we can choose either love or fear, but we cannot live in two worlds or serve two masters.

I am now officially stepping down off of my soapbox. The realization that we are all one is the first major step to believing that "I am in Him and He is in me". This is not "religion" to me, it is truth and quantum physics, the law of attractions, etc. is simply the "proof" that it is so.

May you be happy, may you be healthy, wealthy and wise. May you know peace and live with ease.

[George Le Poi]

There s a really beautiful description of this in Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements.
It is in the introductory chapter, right at the start of the book. I don't have any permission
to reproduce it, but in essence, a Shaman Astral Projects and in the finer body see's the
connectedness of all life. Light and and stars in an act of co-creation of each other
He describes life as being a manifestation of one living being. God, the Field,
Whatever you'd like to call it.
He describes matter as a mirror that reflects the light and creates images of light,
the Illusion we call reality (he calls it a dream which like smoke doesn't allow us
to see who we are.) Once he saw the light in himself, he could see it in all things.
Anyway, he had me...(Don Miguel) I couldn't put the book down.
It's a revisit book for me,slowly slowly it's sinking in.
Thanks for putting the subject on the table. I'm off to revisit Don Miguel.

[Nathan Elliott]

Hey Matt,
I liked the discussion it allowed me to further expand my concept and awareness of GOD, which I believe is necessary for my developement. Thanks for the thought provoking and life enhancing nature of this idea.

PEACE and BLESSINGS,
Nathan

[timbus2001]

Thank you for introducing this very interesting topic.

The religion I am currently exploring is Spiritualism, where God is described as a a neutral impersonal power, a creative, intelligent force – Spirit – the source of the life force in all things. It does not believe in an anthropomorphic deity - which I must say is sometimes a little difficult to come to terms with at times - there is a great natural tendency and need inside humans to call out to a loving 'parent-figure' when difficulties arise, and the idea of only having the Zero Point Field to reach out to may not exactly give one the warm and fuzzies. ;+)

I was recently in discussion with another Spiritualist who believed that 'Infinite Intelligence' (the term Spiritualists use to describe God), is compassionate, and then went on further to say that he believed in the ability of the 'creator' to help in healing and this is why he felt that the 'creator' was compassionate. It seemed to me that he was having difficulty with an impersonal force and still needed to refer to a 'creator.

What I replied was "The word 'creator' to me implies a 'being' which gives us something to project our human feelings and emotions onto. I think that Infinite Intelligence is the power and force behind all of creation. Similarly I believe that Infinite Intelligence is the power and force behind all healing - humans can use the powerful tool of human compassion to tap into this vital power and force, and influence its direction and flow.

To me Infinite Intelligence and the Zero Point Field are the same thing. I've started thinking of the Zero Point Field as The Great Field of Universal Consciousness. We influence its direction and flow through our thoughts, our emotions, our desires - this is how we are co-creators with God/Spirit. Our mental and emotional lives are the powerful tools that influence the flow and direction of the infinite potential of the field. The spiritual natural laws provide keys to working with this powerful energy. This certainly implies the personal responsibility we have in how we create our personal lives.

I also love the idea that all memory is actually stored in the Field, and that our brain is the tool and doorway to access this stored information. This means that our mind function only as well as the health of the brain permits. Perhaps savants have brains that only permit a very narrow access to information, while those of us with more normal brains have access to a broader range of information.....so much to think about.

timbus2001

[apachestone]

the field as i see it is a huge fog of energy. laced with currants of super charged strands that we can tap into
we are the magnifiers or living crystals as some sey. thoughts are and intention can and do focus energy in the field. imagine were vaccumes and sucking up this energy and then releasing it back out into a controled point weather its healing or setting up future way points for us to be at we are what we think we are and attract that what we want to be to us.

the great and powerful OZ is us. we are like co creaters in a art room full of wounders that we can add to or be a part of.

so God.. ya the big kahoona is in and through all things. i cant sey its a great intelagance or giver of knowladge
as some of us are not wise or inteligant [talking bout me here] but flow as seaweed in a sea of energy.
its part of me and i have understanding of its there. as my path is the red path of mother earth is my teacher. in how the physical connects with the spirtule. once we are aware of it we can now join in the mystery of it .
its all about the search. now that i am aware of being part of the Zero point field lets play ball.

i am a point of light because i am made of light.
Rick Olson

[Samantha Huston]

Ya! What he said! Great description.

[Lori Vicari]

"What if "God" (the Divine Force / Vibration that is innately felt by almost all of us on some level) is the sum of all universal consciousness connected through the Field?"

Rather than the sum of all universal consciousness, my thought is that what if God/Godddess/Divine Force/Creator, IS the Field itself and our eternal yearning to reach out and touch and understand the Creator is because we are all connected by It in the first place? What if God's only sense of Self is because It has connected with all consciousness in the Universe, (human beings and whoever else is out there) and our thoughts, our existence together make it possible for God to know Itself? Without "us", the Field/God/Divine Force would not exist because it could not perceive itself. It would just be there, a non-consciousness waiting to become conscious.
Maybe this is just another way of stating what you have already said, but these are the thoughts that occurred to me while reading your thoughts.

I, also welcome comments and ideas.

[Matt]

I appreciate your thoughts. Many individuals see the Divine Force as something separate and external. Concepts from The Field offer the view that the Divine Force is part of us - something that is not separate from us. We are all connected. All consciousness is connected. The sum of all connected consciousness via The Field could be what generates this innate concept of the Divine Force - a feeling that it is somthing much larger than we are and therefore separate and external.