Life hereafter and NDE

[Emma]

Has anyone ever experienced near death experience or something like it? This topic has been an interest of mine ever since the untimely death of my only brother. I'v been pouring over any and all books related to this subject that I could get my hands on and it's been an eye opener. I guess death is a topic that we want to avoid thinking about or talk about for as long as we can until something catastrophic happens in our personal life. Being a Christian and a thinker, I've never been in denial about death. However, when something hits you so close to your heart, then you see your life through a very different prism. This may sound strange, but I've been hearing messages from my brother, mostly to comfort my parents, and also to share his message to those who may listen. His message is simple: That our body is truly nothing more than a shell and that is okay. Our spirit/soul lives on stronger and brighter than ever before, and there is a purpose to our existence. I am embarking on a new journey of knowledge and am eager to follow that voice inside of me.

Anyone an expert on this subject of life hereafter and NDE? Or, any perspective on this topic, I would love to hear from you.

Emma

[Bill Schuh]

Thank you for sharing, Emma. I'm no expert, but the subject has been an interest of mine. I encourage you to continue to follow your inner voice. I am a hospice volunteer and have witnessed one of my patients saying with a smile on his face "There are others here in the room with us!" . I would also encourage you to investigate the Seth Material for some insight into the after-death environment.
Peace and Love,
Bill

[Emma]

Hi Bill,
Thank you for your encouraging comment and sharing your thoughts. What you've witnessed as a hospice volunteer with a dying patient "seeing others" is a common occurence. It's interesting that people don't often talk about such a thing as if it's a taboo or something dismissive...interesting. I'll check out the "Seth Material" as you've suggested. I'm not familiar with this material. Thanks.

Blessings,
Emma

[Barry]

Hi Emma:

I'm new to The Field, and I have not experienced an NDE. A very interesting book on the subject is "Visitations from the Afterlife: True Stories of Love and Healing", by Lee Lawson. She is a Native American artist, using iconic indian symbols of healing and transformation. http://www.leelawson.com/

[Emma]

Hi Barry,
Welcome to the LTF community. I'm also new, but it's been such an experience of learning in many ways. Also, thank you for recommending Lee Lawson's book. I haven't read that one yet and I'll be sure to check it out.

Blessings,
Emma

[Richard Machin]

Dear Emma,

Everything you are sensing is is both ok and good. Unfortunately and sadly our first encounter with
the spiritual dimension often occurs through the passing of a loved one whom we are especially close to.

I had a NR experience when I was a child and although I did not realise it at the time it has had a profound effect upon my feelings and thoughts about this life and of the next dimension of being. The love that I experienced as I was going towards the light is something I can never experience in this life and it has taken me over fifty years of searching to realise. It has brought a great sense of peace to me and a committment to do the very best I can to help through my work as a therapist and friend.

My sister died in 1991 and she stayed with me for about one and a half years to get me into the healing field.
I was able to help her through her battle with cancer and somehow I feel she knew far more about my true path in life when she was in spirit than I did. Its a long story.

Everything your brother says to you in his message is true. We all come into this life with a purpose to fulfill, unfortunately many souls do not realise their life's purpose. I am a completely different person , from whom I was before. All I can say is That I wasted so much time and energy searching. I celebrate your opening to a new dimension within you, OPEN YOUR HEART TO THE LOVE THAT COMES TO YOU, and listen and learn.

Peace be with you my friend and love to you on your journey. Richard

Ps, Keep in touch

[Emma]

Dear Richard,

Thank you so much for your kind words. I'm sorry about your sister's untimely death as well. Do you believe in visitations from our loved ones from the other side? I really believe that they are with us even if we can't see them. I often feel the presence of my brother the instant when I miss him or think of him.

I'm wondering about your childhood NDE. Would you be kind enough to share it with me in more detail?

Peace be with you my friend, and Blessings,

Emma

[Richard Machin]

Dear Emma,

You are a very kind soul, with a tremendous understanding. I do feel that your brother is helping you because of your love for him, it's amazing how love crosses from one dimension to another and I know it is the key to life- to all life.

There is much to say but I have so little time at the moment. I do wish to answer all your questions and will talk again soon, however to answer your question about my NDE.

I was five years old and had suffered from bronchitis for two years, it was especially chronic at the time because I can remember a red jelly like substance being coughed up regularily, it didnt especially bother me I can remember. Life seemed to be a daze and I was not concerned about myself. I could not understand what all the fuss was about and why the Doctor came to see me so regularily.

I can remember going down the tunnel and have done vividly since that moment over the last 64 years.
The overwhelming feeling as I went to the light was that I had to get there, it was such a feeling of love that I cannot explain and I realise now that all my searching has been to find that love in this life. I now realise that it is not possible and that has brought me a deep sense of peace because I was going to my real home as I was going to the light.
I have been down many paths in my searching to find the key to life. Like you say all fear of death goes and I know that much of the dogma of religious teaching is wrong. It helps me in my life and in my work as a therapist to be nonjudgmental of anyone. I just wish your brother's persecutors had known the truth.
He knew where he was going there would be no condemnation for such a kind and loving soul. He is home once again and I know he is helping you through your love for him and his love for you.

I will talk about my sister and about The Angels next time.

And may the peace that your brother knows be with you my friend, Richard

[Anne Jaff]

Hello Emma
I Have been told that I have experienced the beginnings of an NDE - My account is as follows:-
I was ten years old, sleeping in my bedroom where I had left a candle burning on a plastic typewriter. I lived in a rural community - farm - no electricity. I had thought it was a metal typewriter. When the candle burned down, the room became drowned in thick black smoke and I became aware in my sleep of a very sore throat which became sorer as time passed.
My throat became more and more sore and I was trying to wake up until there came a point when the pain suddenly lifted I felt no hurt, total release, no weight, and perfectly normal. My Father was in the room with a lit candle that kept going out. (Lack of oxygen) He was removing my twin brothers aged 3 years to safety, he came back for me feeling his way in the dark, lifted my body went through my bedroom door and down the stairs and I followed behind him and me, out of the house to the front garden where he sat me on a chair. I came to consciousness clutching the underneath of the chair seat in each hand. I still have the chair and I can still feel that place across my palms when I entered my body.
I was extremely aware of the lack of weight in my being, my ability to move without thought, the view of the back of my fathers head and the position of my body in his arms is still vivid today. I had no fear or notion of abnormality I was just part of the place I was in. I was in a state of happiness, release, ease of thought, and total confidence in my existence. My freedom of thought, weightlessness and knowledge had a lasting effect on my life, I felt that time had no significance and space was me.
x Anne

[Pat Donworth]

Hi Emma:
Welcome. This is a near and dear topic to me, practically and career-wise. As an Emergency Room chaplain I've been with many people as they've passed over. I've also heard many descriptions of what patients "saw" when they "died," e.g. from a heart attack, and then being resuscitated.

I personally had a conscious death in a car accident in 1996, then walked out of the demolished car with only a scratch on my knuckle. Something "new" entered my body and it took me about a year to acclimate. I felt like a newborn baby getting used to the 3-D world: density, food, walking, language -- these seemed so arcane and heavy activities to me! A few years before that had a I death experience in a dream, where I "passed over" and experienced Unity consciousness in the dream.

The dualistic/homo sapiens grid has put out such false information about "death" that I find it mind boggling. This is an amazing topic, a timely one, and I look forward to "forum-ing" with you on it.

Love and blessings,
Pat

[Emma]

Hi Pat,
Thanks for sharing. I am excited to learn more on this topic from your personal experiences as well as insights you've gained from them. I agree that this is an amazing topic. There are too many similar account of the NDE among those select (blessed) individuals, that it's hard to ignore.
Did you read the NYTimes article about how "scientists were able to enduce out-of-body experience" in an experiment? Here's the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/23/science/23cnd-body.html?em&ex...
I think they're missing the important point about our spirit/soul moving on to a different realm, not this illusionary vision experience. I would love to hear what you think about this article.

I've never had a NDE, but I've had many significant dreams in my life. I've always sensed that there's someone (a guardian angel, if you will) watching over me. There are things that may be ineffable, but that doesn't mean it's not there. I'm sure you know what I mean.

When you get a chance, I would love to hear about your experience with the "Unity consciousness" in your dream.

Thank you for listening, and Peace and Blessings to you,
Emma

[Steven Burnand]

Hi Emma, I suppose most of us on this forum are all talking about connectivity, so raising the myth of disconnection at the point of death is a subject well worth discussing!

The correlations between the stories told by those who have had an NDE’s have always fascinated me, also the references made to the Pineal Gland being the point of exit of the soul.

I currently believe in a model close to Brahma Kumaris in that we are all uploaded at the point of death into a well of souls?

It’s interesting that all of us here have already been dead; in being that we can not remember the face of our fathers, father’s mother?

Another thing that puzzles me is why the DNA faithfully duplicates the body and omits the knowledge contained in the parents? Why waste such an important part of an evolving process?

Could this condensed essence of knowledge, in the well of souls be what we call in-tuition?

Why remove the conscious knowledge from the evolutionary chain? With the minds of our parents, our mental growth could be expediential?

Steve

[AnnieInfinite]

Hi Emma, Can I begin by saying that I 'died' when I was 15 from an anaphylactic attack and that I didn't really want to come back. I found myself in a place that seemed to have no end and was made of light, beautiful pastels that have nothing like it here. It was like flying in a rainbow, and if I spiraled up I went into my future and if I spiraled down I went into my past... and if I just flew around into the vastness I felt free and so loved, no love here has ever felt like that. I felt as if I was so loved there was nothing I could do to that love to make it less and i felt so connected. That was where I learned that I am you and you are me and I am everything and everything is me. I also learned that it was not time for me to die... I had things to do, I know I saw what they were, but as soon as I got back (after an adrenaline needle straight to my heart), I couldn't remember any detail, only where I had been. My doctor thought it was strange that I hadn't seen 'the light' the way others had.. as he had a medical explanation for that. But I know I was there because of having an experience not just seeing, or hearing, or feeling, but so much more on so many levels, it changed me forever.

Years later my beautiful brother took his own life when his doctor prescribed the wrong antidepressant and about a week after the funeral he came to me in a dream, and I was back in that place again only with him and he told me to be who I really was, no matter what the cost as this is why we are here, to find ourselves amongst the tide of expectation from others. He told me that when each one of us reaches for their potential that the whole universe 'gets in tune', this doesn't translate very well I know, but he meant that the universe is like a large musical instrument and that as each of us is in tune with their true selves the sound the instrument makes becomes finer and more beautiful... An allegory that has given me strength to change who I was appearing to be and get on with being who I am.